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WAITING FOR THE WORLD TO DIE.

by nightwarrior in

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why is it that after all these years i have suddenly become aware that ,all jehovahs witnesess or those whom claim to be so called have actualy formed a judegment on the whole world of mankind , by stating that they have the only true message from god,.

what is that message and are they the only ones whom talck to the creator, ????????????.

the scriptures allways gave times and seasons when god talcked to mankind ,yet the leaders of this tinpot organization have never ever published anything stating that jehovah talcked to any given individual,as he did with mossess or other men of old,my question is do the re followers need proof that they are serving god or are they serving man ,hhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

be wise

Great heading nightwarrior

WAITING FOR THE WORLD TO DIE.

U should be a writer?

Can I nick it for a song title?

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To "my brother" SwordofJah

by ScoobySnax in

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i don't think we're anything alike from what i've read of your posts.

i'm interested to know what you think...... an old saying comes to mind though:.

"you laugh at me coz i'm different, but i laugh coz you're all the same" .

be wise

Bewise......... ???? sorry?

This figures.

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Bible Student's C.T Russell gave 'organisation' the thumbs down!

by be wise in

c. t. russell was against organizing his own religion, or at least he said so (see the watchtower, 1895 p.216; also 1894 p.384 & 1893 p.266).

"the endeavor to compel all men to think alike on all subjects, culminated in the great apostasy and the development of the great papal system, and thereby the gospel, the one faith that paul and the other apostles set forth, was lost - buried under the mass of uninspired decrees of popes and councils.

the unity of the early church, based upon the simple gospel and bound only by love, gave place to the bondage of the church of rome...each new reform movement (like protestantism) has made the failure of attempting to make a creed just large enough for its prime movers.

be wise

Thanks Craig, that was very informative (can't think of another word).

Cheers

be wise.

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To "my brother" SwordofJah

by ScoobySnax in

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friends

i don't think we're anything alike from what i've read of your posts.

i'm interested to know what you think...... an old saying comes to mind though:.

"you laugh at me coz i'm different, but i laugh coz you're all the same" .

be wise

But like they say, we put ourselves here, so let 'em fire!! Ha ha!!

This says it all!

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To "my brother" SwordofJah

by ScoobySnax in

jw
friends

i don't think we're anything alike from what i've read of your posts.

i'm interested to know what you think...... an old saying comes to mind though:.

"you laugh at me coz i'm different, but i laugh coz you're all the same" .

be wise

Scooby, maybe your reasons for being here are different to most who post here, if you don't like it, leave that's what most of us did, we left this damaging cult with good concience or you could say - with a crisis of concience.

All I can say is - play with fire, you get burned!

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To "my brother" SwordofJah

by ScoobySnax in

jw
friends

i don't think we're anything alike from what i've read of your posts.

i'm interested to know what you think...... an old saying comes to mind though:.

"you laugh at me coz i'm different, but i laugh coz you're all the same" .

be wise

then do the pioneer shuffle on someones face as his secret move.

I would pay good money to play this.

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Vote on Massive Attacks new album ...anyone?

by be wise in

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i think they've been brave and attempted something different than before.

nice use of effects (the anorak coming out in me).

i think there are some exellent songs on it but not consistent enough for a classic album but good music with good soul.

be wise

I think they've been brave and attempted something different than before. Nice use of effects (the anorak coming out in me). I think there are some exellent songs on it but not consistent enough for a classic album but good music with good soul. 6/10

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Bible Student's C.T Russell gave 'organisation' the thumbs down!

by be wise in

c. t. russell was against organizing his own religion, or at least he said so (see the watchtower, 1895 p.216; also 1894 p.384 & 1893 p.266).

"the endeavor to compel all men to think alike on all subjects, culminated in the great apostasy and the development of the great papal system, and thereby the gospel, the one faith that paul and the other apostles set forth, was lost - buried under the mass of uninspired decrees of popes and councils.

the unity of the early church, based upon the simple gospel and bound only by love, gave place to the bondage of the church of rome...each new reform movement (like protestantism) has made the failure of attempting to make a creed just large enough for its prime movers.

be wise

C. T. Russell was against organizing his own religion, or at least he said so (see The Watchtower, 1895 p.216; also 1894 p.384 & 1893 p.266). He also noted,
"The endeavor to compel all men to think alike on all subjects, culminated in the great apostasy and the development of the great papal system, and thereby the gospel, the one faith that Paul and the other apostles set forth, was lost - buried under the mass of uninspired decrees of popes and councils. The unity of the early church, based upon the simple gospel and bound only by love, gave place to the bondage of the church of Rome...Each new reform movement (like Protestantism) has made the failure of attempting to make a creed just large enough for its prime movers." --WT, Sep. 1893, p. 1572
On why organizations don't work -
"...we have pointed out continually the tendency of Christian people toward union, showing, too, that such a union is predicted in scripture; but that its results, while designed to be good, will really be bad; and this because it will be a mechanical union instead of a heart unity."--WT, Mar 1893, p. 1504
The "Bible Students," as they were called back in the early years, could attend other churches and celebrate Christmas. Yet, five presidents and ninety years later, the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society is virtually unrecognizable from its origins. Boasting over five million active members and massive real estate holdings, the Watchtower is a major industry that keeps a tight clamp on its financial records as well as its inner politics.

http://www.freeminds.org/sales/menuframes.htm

I haven’t read any literature by C.T.Russell yet so I can’t really comment knowledgbly on what I think of him.

Personally I like C.T.Russell in some ways. He believed in the great pyramid – some people call this stupid – I respect him for having an open mind, a breath of fresh air compared to Rutherfords JWism, (cough), although he was guilty of changing a few things for his own benefit (dates etc). He also sold his family business for millions, you can imagine how much that was back then and died with 20 quid to his name – some people would call this stupid as well but at least he believed in something and went for it regardless of cost. Although his personal life and relationship with his wife suffered badly (hmm). I spend an unhealthy amount of time, in some people’s opinion, writing music but they would never understand what it means to me.

Does anyone have any quotes of his claims he made about himself, what his authority was – this is where it all goes wrong in my opinion for any man?

As I say I haven’t read much literature he wrote so don’t judge me too harshly if you’ve already done your research. If you have hit the reply button.

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